Next thing I know this person went after me who knew Paul's Greek and was debating me on an intensely high level for literally a week. We would copy and paste what lengthy paragraphs each other wrote and then give a lengthy refute and this went on with what seemed endless writing for hours in a day, at least from me. Two days alone were spent on this person saying a word was "nor" instead of "and" with finally conceding I was right and then acting like it was never debated (the whole point of that was me saying Paul was getting rid of the heterosexual paradigm of "male AND female" in Gen. 1:27 instead of Paul just saying we have no labels under Jesus in Gal. 3:28).
What's strange is between all of this (did I mention this went on for a week?) "Mary" would say odd things like; "Oh, I have to make cookies for my church bake sale" or some other off the wall strangeness that started to make me suspicious if this was even a female. Then it started to sink in with me; "Is "Mary" James White?"
This person is giving me an exhaustive debate of a scholar at breakneck speed on top of spiting off koine Greek to me while cleaning their oven (another thing "she" literally said) and baking cookies for their church bake sale (another thing "she" literally said). Later I even said; "You really aren't a harried housewife making cookies, are you?" Because at that point I was convinced I was right and this person, whomever it was, didn't deny it or ask why I would ask that like a normal person would or even act surprised when I just came out and said it.
Now I know White has multiple YouTube channels under different names he's openly on, so why wouldn't he have YouTube accounts under other names he could snoop around in the comment sections about him, engage people, and just leave if he isn't winning a debate with no one knowing it was him? I also find out later this was White's "style" of debating (beating a dead horse over one word like "nor" or point with reams and reams of debate). White also has a problem with stereotyping (I wrote about what he wrote about an African American boy in a prior post), so him talking like he was a stereotypical housewife from the 50's, how "Mary" spoke, when she wasn't sounding like a brutish man isn't a stretch.
I wouldn't throw it past White to take on this persona just so he can feed his bloated ego, what even people close to him admit he has, in the comments section of YouTube and runs away when he doesn't win the arguments.
I ended the debate because I warned this person if they kept insulting me personally with calling me "crazy" and "delusional" instead of sticking with the topic (White also loves to go to personal insults) our discussion would end because I had enough of these personal attacks. Sure enough this individual couldn't help themselves with saying my parents were probably ashamed of me with me saying "We're done!"
After Daniel Helminiak debated Robert Gagnon, he related on his site how it was like having something similar to Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome afterwards (PTS). I knew exactly how he felt. It's not that Mary/White or Gagnon are right, it's how they debate. The best arguments I've seen countering Gagnon and White, mine included, I've read were from those who engage their arguments with taking their time refuting them away from their snapping jaws in a debate setting they master and slowly chiseling away at their arguments.
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